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thank you for your take on this. "sharing your feelings" on a particular issue does nothing to help solve or bring change to an issue. You needs tactics for dealing with these scenarios as a celebrity... which is my problem with Chappell roan. I don't think she wanted a solution for such fan interaction as much as she wanted the chance to be a victim.

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YOU NEED TO FIRE YOU'RE IMAGINATION

Chapell really wasn't that confusing, y'all just love overanalyzing every little thing

Hey mr f*** false narrative, do you even bother to mention the label aka RCA for the wrong things they did? I think not

One thing holding back the album itself is RCA aka the label, no physical release at all, the other is no visuals for single. Stop creating false narrative

She just wants to be a performer and musician it's that simple but you have so many valid and right points tbh

You're not wrong.

Not entirely related to the video but she reminds mr of camp and Katy Perry bubblegum pop than lady Gaga edgy stuff idk

I don’t care how controversial it is or how people feel about what I say. There are way too many examples, currently and in the past, of the pitfalls of celebrity so I don’t really care to see people who openly choose to pursue that life complain about what they’re going thru. Nobody said you have to be in that space and that spot you currently occupy will gladly get filled by someone else soon enough. They should be fighting the more important fight with what we all should now know about as it relates to these artists’ battles and treatment behind closed doors instead of complaining about fanatics who’ve made it possible for these people to live a life of privilege most wouldn’t have known they’d have until they had their art patronized and obsessed over.

I don’t get what was confusing about Chappell’s post. She’s clearly addressing the people that don’t respect her boundaries and treat her as if they’ve known her their whole life and those who feel entitled to more than just her music such as her personal life, yet she doesn’t even know their name. It is weird behaviour.

Beyonce has had many artists criticize her she refuses to help anyone but herself become successful others becoming successful must to be a threat to Beyonce she is dangerous she’s like Diddy promise people to help them become a great artist only using them to advance their career needs not the artist who should look for other reputable companies that will give them the support needed jealousy not being involved in the contract it’s only about making money for the artists and owners of entertainment industries..

Tbh, I feel more for Doja's approach because it was more personified. As a grown ass person (with a dose of stan experience to other person, no less!), I did agree with her. Chappel sounded more patronizing, talking about basic ass, easy things as taking pictures (yes, you might not feel like it, and yes, you might decline, and yes, fan might feel sad, but he/she will process it if they have any sort of self-awareness) as if it was some sort of unseen behavior, she came off as she is expecting you to consume her product but shut the heck up about anything that comes with you're being sold to consume more. Namely, Doja's feuding/banter with stans empowers you to have some degree of personal responsibility ("you stream if you like, you shake ass if you like, it's your business, we are not friends, if you don't like it, you may unstan" - "fine, i will"), while Chappel just shames you out of the blue ("you're OUGHT to behave this or that, or otherwise, you're not normal"). Hear me out. If you're a random lady on the street, go work as a cashier at the supermarket, selling other people's goods that I might occasionally need. If you're a CELEBRITY that RELIES on a SMALL % OF STANS OVERCONSUMING YOUR PRODUCT to support your lifestyle and make you shitloads of money, you can't have your cake and eat it too, (not) sorry. So, you WANT this parasociality to work for you and sell your stuff, but you're hissing at the minor inconveniences (ofc I don't talk real extremes like physical stalking or criminal behavior) that come with it? THEN pretend to make it about "aLL wOmYn xPeRiEnCe" to secure brownie points from media? Spare me. If you want me to support your craft to an absolutely irrational levels, buying your subpar merch, listening to your subpar music, going to your subpar shows, you'd BETTER talk nice to me and make effort to SELL me those products. It's basic form of marketing. Stans carry your paper edifice on their backs unpaid. There's way too much offer in this overconsuming, trashy, useless industry for me to care through the disrespect.

How do u expect somebody who doesn’t even know you to let u touch them smile take pictures I don’t get why people are mad at summer Walker also there no reason to stalk anybody’s family or show up at their sister’s house and then expect them to not get mad

Saying you won’t take people seriously for not wanting the fame but wanting to still make money off their passion is weird. It would be great if the music could be enjoyed and people could live off it without all the fame drama.

You sooo sexy. Love hearing your voice over these topics.

Wish you mentioned MNEK. As much as he's pop, he's very much R&B, especially where it concerns the last two tracks on his debut EP and his songwriting and production for UK girl group Flo. He's so underrated in my humble opinion

She's successful as a songwriter for other artists but she's underrated with her own. C'mon peopleee stop sleeping on her!

She contributed a lot to the industry with her writing skills and giving vocals and bops songs, but the amount of hate she's receiving is just random. We keep saying she deserves more, but she's still underrated. I adore her since the beginning, and I hope she will get the recognition she deserves.

Question though, as a Brent faiyaz fan do you really think his album wasteland “didn’t have anything to say”? I thought that album was cinematic and told a full story. Do you disagree?

I kinda liked her music, but after the double down thing....girl, please, get a 9-5 job and make the "problem" go away, that simple!

not your finest hour, boss.

I didn't have an issue with what Chappell was saying until she canceled concerts in intimate venues for her fans who bought tickets before she blew up with GLB to practice for her VMAs performance. I understand she has a team who obviously wanted her to prioritize being on a highly visible stage like the VMAs, but it literally went against everything she's been preaching and makes her come across as disingenuous. If you hate being recognized and want to be left alone when you're out in public, making an appearance on the VMAs is definitely going to worsen that issue... There's a disconnect with her being a rising artist and her team wanting her to be out there and what she wants for herself. With her second album, hopefully she has more freedom in her decisions and can intentionally make herself more elusive like Lorde or Fiona Apple because you really cannot have it both ways. So many celebrities before her have made sacrifices to minimize their public personas to escape harassment and it won't be different for her just because she called it out. Celebrity culture sadly will never change.

I’m gonna say something that really shouldn’t be controversial. Public figures don’t get to clock out. Tf? I thought people knew this. Obama doesn’t get to stop being Obama, Lebron James doesn’t get to just stop being king james the best player in the world. Every hour of the day they are what they are, they will always matter, they will always be watched and recorded 24/7, and pop stars are no different because they’re public figures, this is the monkey paw. People keep saying a singer’s job is to sing nothing else, and that’s true. But Chapelle is not a singer. And she never wanted to just be “a singer”. If all she did was sing nobody would gaf about her, she’s a damn **POP STAR.** And when you’re a POP STAR there ain’t no “clocking in”, “clocking out” like a regular job. What don’t people understand about this? You’re not working a regular job, that’s why you wanted to be a pop star cause it’s better than a regular job. You don’t get regular pay cheques at regular dates, you don’t get regular opportunities, you don’t get a regular social status, you’re not brushing shoulders with regular people day to day. So sorry, you don’t get to clock in clock out like a regular job. You didn’t want a regular job, and rightfully so cause regular jobs suck, and when we regular folk complain, it doesn’t go viral. You wanted to be Hannah montana. Ok, so now you’re gonna get what Hannah Montana got. That’s how it works, it’s called risk reward, it’s called the law of equivalent exchange. People are miserable today because they’re always fantasizing about ideals. All they care about is what should happen, and how things should be, well sorry but things will never be how things should be, so if utopia is your win condition, you’re gonna lose. If all you want is a flawless life then you ain’t ever gonna get what you want. You ain’t ever gonna get the best of both worlds, cause this ain’t the best world, welcome to earth. Only children fantasize about fairytale life an utopia and very thing being perfect and nobody messing with them ever. But when people get called out for acting exactly like children, and thinking like a child, they start crying. This is 2024, you knew damn well what would come with the game, I’m tired of hearing celebrities moan over the dark side of fame when, feature length documentary after feature length documentary about pop stars across time and space warned them what was coming. You were warned about the inevitable invasion/annihilation of privacy. They warned you. How many examples of people getting burned do you need to see before you realize fire is hot, stans come with fame. You can google this, you can ask chat gpt, and it’ll break it down point blank simple. This isn’t a problem this isn’t a bug, this is a feature it’s caked in built in to the pop star industry. This is like if I became a construction worker and cried online cause I got my hand cut picking up a screw driver, this is like if I became a cop, then cried online cause someone eventually punched me in the face. It’s an occupational hazard. An inevitable one. A googleable one. Stop complaining. It’s crazy cause the weeknd literally laid the groundwork in 2011 for being an artist and keeping anonymity. Of course he abandoned that for higher heights and greater rewards, but that’s the thing. He chose to abandon it. The same way she chose to tell the world her real name and showed her face, that’s why you don’t hear the weeknd crying. Sabrina carpenter got briefed on this that’s why you don’t hear her crying. Somehow roan managed to dodge 100 years of pop star history, in the age of the internet.

The main thing incorrect in her TikTok statement is that she no longer just some “random b”. Shes famous weather she likes it or not. Not condoning the harassment to her family, ext. But she’s famous, and not a random b, hence why people want to take pics w her or say hi to her. It’s not weird.

How do you make a post arguing that these fans wouldn’t obsess over any old random women, then in the very next post contradict yourself talking about “women don’t owe you anything” and “this is a woman issue”. You blatantly in your first post pointed out that this is an issue you’re facing cause of fame, not XX chromosomes. It’s so obvious she’s just trying to assemble the feminist avengers to protect her from mean posts online. Ironically displaying exactly why people idolize look up to her and lust to be around her. Look at the social capital you’re flexing. When people give us mean tweets we can’t just assemble the avengers to defend ourselves. You can cause your famous.

There's a fundamental misunderstanding going on in this discussion. The complaint that "you don't really know this celebrity from what you've heard them say and seen them do" is true. But it's true for every person in your life, not just celebrities. You don't know all about your mother from your interactions with her, or your teacher, your boss, co-workers, doctor, friends. The only things you know about them are what they chose to tell you and what you've seen them do. Celebrities are acting like they're special here, but they're not.

Don you've been on this earth for 80 years?

I'm on Chappell Roan's side. Fans need to learn the difference between healthy passionate admiration of an artist that's still respectful and tactful vs outright crossing the line into disrespectfully infringing upon the artists' boundaries and turning into crazy, aggressive, hyper entitled and unhinged stalkers with no respect for others. This is exactly what Eminem was warning us about in "Stan", and that was 24 years ago! So yeah, Chappell's right and anybody that has a problem with it is part of the problem and needs to check himself or herself and reevaluate their attitudes and behavior. And frankly we need to stop weaponizing the "yOuR FaVeS aReN't BuIlT fOr FaMe!" argument because now it's just being more and more of a weaponized deflection and gaslighting tactic by people to gaslight and manipulate celebrities into tolerating abuse while not wanting to look at themselves and not wanting to hold themselves accountable for their lack of class or boundaries or rexamine how they don't have much going on in their own lives outside of idolizing celebrities and being creepy, weird, annoying, disturbed and pitiful about it. It isn't about people being "built for fame", it's about people finally putting their foots down and rightfully refusing to tolerate abuse and the fans needing to check and humble themselves to treat the artist with the same respect in return. Point blank period.

Disagree with the second half of the video. Strongly

I agree with the women part, Micheal Jackson is a great example of this but gloss over that because of identity politics and white feminism and gay men especially eat this up and it's sad.

This is such a bone headed take. Deciding that you want to be known for your career shouldn’t open you up to harassment, stalking and general obsession and even abuse. People really do not seem to grasp just how dangerous this shit can get. Christine Grimme was killed by a fan. Jodie Foster was stalked as a child by a man who then grew up to carry out an assassination attempt on a president. Justin Beiber was constantly sexually harassed by adults. Someone saying that they are not going to accept that behavior doesn’t mean they aren’t built for fame. It means they are asserting their boundaries and protecting themselves and their families! And that is their right! We do not own or know these people. The only thing they ‘owe’ us is their work.

the stalking is never good but celebrities do owe their fans some sort of appreciation for supporting them. how you say no (even to random people) still matters. fans still deserve to be treated as normal people, even if you're having a bad day or whatever. the extreme does deserve to be called out, but there are normal people who ask nicely who still get treated badly for supporting their faves.

Yea like when people go online about there stalking I'm bewildered because in any of the parts do they talk about the police and stalkers will never understand don't give them attention even if they go crazy and it wild how people can be investigators on the Internet and find out who the zodiac killer is but they can't help protect people from being unalived

When are people gonna realise they dont give celebs money THEY BUY THEIR MUSIC Simple professional transaction

I don't agree with calling fans weird for wanting a picture with their favorite artist or to get something signed by them we gotta keep in mind we pay their bills if we stopped buying their tickets to their shows or their albums they would go broke so i think there shouldnt be an issue with getting a pic or getting something signed however I also believe thats where it should stop stalking them is bad and even coming online and defender them like you know them or like they pay your bills is weird af gotta remember we DONT KNOW THESE people

The real idea befind a celebrity or the term icon is to give yourself and whole life to your fans in exchange for fame and wealth. Celebrities used to act like God now they wanna come as relatable.

Goodmorning: I'll always wonder, do these ppl realize what they're getting themselves into..?? You just signed your privacy away. Being a celebrity doesn't seem like lollipops & rainbows. And according to alot of celebrities it's not. Don't get me wrong, ppl really do deserve their personal space. Especially if you're a really private person. When you're a celebrity or public figure you're gonna be bothered alot. Regardless if you like it or not. Usually it's because they adore you or really like you. Also other stuff. Chapelle needs to figure out a way to handle this. And stop whining & crying trying to play victim. It's straight dumb. Bad Bunny seems like Kanye West. Kanye literally punched 👊🏼 a person who was a fan..!! But I get it cuz the person literally ran up on Ye, just for a autograph. Roan was no where near brutal. Great video & have a nice day 😊

These celebs should come with instruction.DON'T LOOK ,BREAKABLE ,FRAGILE,or some crop like that.They are all here for the attention and fame.They are fooling no one.Don,i think they do watch these videos.Good video.

Just came here to say her singing voice is overrated and annoying. Thank you and goodbye

Honestly this obsessed groupie culture is the problem I agree with the musicians these people make music you see them you say nothing to them & leave them alone they don't know you & they don't owe you anything enjoy the music and leave it as that.

A singer's job is just to sing. That's it. Everything else is gravy. But we expect celebrities to give us 100% energy all the tome, NO ONE CAN DO THAT

Let’s be completely clear about something, Chappelle Roan was not wrong, being stalked, have your family stalked, having people showing up at your sisters job so much she gets fired and having people show up at your parents house in the middle of the night pounding on the doors is not normal and shouldn’t be normalized just because you like somebody’s music or bc they’re well known, it’s weird and deserves to be called out

There is different levels of fame she doesn't have to be a mega star to be successful.

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I truly don’t think this flopped like yall think it did. First of all, I LOVED IT. Second, it’s a soundtrack single from a film she was in. It was never gonna be as popular as a single that was meant for her career (like yall treat this like Nicki and Massive Attack for example… THAT FLOPPED). It fizzled out just like her role in the movie, but it gave yall just a little taste of what was to come. I also always took it as she was being Foxy Cleopatra, NOT BEYONCÉ. Stop hating and just enjoy it for what it is mehn. Like yall hate this but love Sasha Fierce… why?

Brent does so much story telling.... I think he has lots to say? I think summer is not very well known tbh

Yes. And Fefe can actually sing.